Close call could have gone bad
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Editor:

My husband Steve currently works for Con Fire and is the fire inspector for the majority of East County. Previously, my husband was the fire chief at Onizuka AFB in Sunnyvale.

Typically, the majority of firefighters are very close-mouthed about the heroic things that they do every day. To them, it’s their job; they aren’t out there bragging and posing in front of the camera – they just want to get the job done and make sure that everyone is able to get out and get home safely to their loved ones.

As a spouse, I have on many occasions wanted to point out and jump up and down telling everyone about the fantastic and wonderful things that they do every day. My husband, the majority of the time, makes me sit down.

This time, with the future of ECCFPD in jeopardy, I wanted to take the time to tell you about a call that recently came into Station 54. Dean Miller and Bill Scott were two of the East County firefighters that responded. The call was for a “fainting” incident in the new Brentwood City Hall. Dean and Bill responded to the call over at City Hall, and when they arrived, the woman had not fainted, she was actually not breathing and had no pulse. Dean and Bill were able to resuscitate her and she was transported to a local hospital, where she was apparently released after two days.

If Measure S does not pass and Station 54 is closed, the chances are that this woman would not be checking out of the hospital within two days. The likelihood that this woman’s family would be planning a different kind of service would be the reality.

Honestly, I don’t think that these guys get enough credit for what they do every day. I hope that in your fire department series, you can take some time and mention these stories so that people stop and consider what station closures and response times really mean.

When your child is not breathing, or there is a serious accident, or stations get multiple calls … it matters.

I will now get off my soap box.

Jana Aubert

Brentwood
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John_Gonzales
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May 09, 2012
I think some of the comments here are missing the point that has spurred all this debate to the surface. First let me clear up any confusion about my stance on the new tax. I support, admire, and respect all firefighters (union or non union). What I have the problem with is the special interest influence that drives waste in the costs of fire suppression. People from everywhere comment about the proper way to run a fire district. The union way is not the only way. Everyone comments on the heroic deeds done by firefighters. No one that I know of has ever disputed the danger, the need, the dedication of firefighters and their jobs. The fact that the IAFF has a clause in the bylaws that tells its members to avoid/refuse to work side by side with all the other type of non union firefighters in the country that are not a part of their union is and has been my biggest issue and the reason for NO on S. This union interference has been a problem for East County and beyond for many years. To adhere to the bylaws, I suggested years ago to the union to form a unionized position for entry level firefighters. This would allow lower costs, on the job training, and eventually result in a seasoned professional that knows the area, department, and people. It appears the Firefighters all are compassionate and caring about their jobs yet the union is more concerned about its power and control over the profession. Of course that makes sense if you’re a union official. It does not make sense to the taxpayer because the union is not needed for a professional top notch fire department. When someone says that paid on call, volunteer, AED’s are not important throughout the community, and private paramedic services are all unacceptable I am saddened by their lack knowledge that 70% percent of the United States uses these resources to save lives. Those agencies also live within their financial means because they are flexible. So when an abundance of great suggestions and ideas to cope with the high costs of our fire district by many different sources are ignored, I can only conclude this tax if for the benefit of the union to take more of the 70% share the rest of the country uses while dismissing good logical alternatives for firefighters or residents. God bless our Firefighters, shame on their union. Send this tax back with a No on S until all solutions are truly tried and considered.
b_simp
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May 09, 2012
Mr. Gonzales, you are bloviating and not addressing the concerns raised. Where did anyone say AEDs are not important or that private paramedics were "unacceptable"?

The often cited 70% are served by volunteers is deceptive. It fails to mention that more than 70% of the country is rural. In fact, according to new definitions used by the census bureau in 2010, 94% of the country is considered rural. I don't care how they do it in the sticks. I only care about how it's done in the now suburban East County where I live. Report after report points to the fact that in the long run we will pay more and probably suffer more losses under a volunteer type department. But you continue to ignore the experts.

Much of the rest of your post is nonsensical or simply repeats of tired talking points. You did not address the concerns raised over runaway workmans comp issues during your tenure or why we would not be right back in that mess with your plan. There is a reason no one in a position of authority listens to this silliness. You might want to take the hint. Maybe it's time to start thinking of the whole of East County instead of just yourself? Your closest station is one of those on the chopping block here.
JRevl
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May 08, 2012
As the writer of this letter to the editor, what makes me sad the most is that none of you gave these guys props for what they do each and every day. I understand that in this world of corporate greed, wasteful spending and a economic system that seems to be out of control, we all want a form of reform. I think that something does need to be done, some measure of reform. But instead of addressing this, all of you chose to knock the guys that save your butts when you need it the most.

If you ever want to know exactly how much money we take home or how much we are required EVERY month to put in to a pension that is mandatory per the county, I would be more than happy to show you my budget. (23% out of every MONTHLY paycheck, FYI he gets paid ONCE a month) I would also be more than happy to show you what 3% at 50 really means to my household. We wont walk away with 90% at 50 and neither did my dad who served for over 20 years for Sac Fire. What my dad did walk away with is deafness (as a Engineer), two blown knees, pulmonary edema (from toxic smoke) and a heart attack five years after retirement. I know that many of you commented on the "facts" that firefighters are not on the most dangerous jobs list, but as a person that is on the most dangerous jobs list - I wouldn't be the one running into a burning building or having the absolute heartache of dealing with children who are badly in need of help or who they aren't able to save.

These things tax my family - but we deal with it because this is the career that my husband is most passionate about. It's not a job to him, it is something he loves and has the deepest desire to do for the rest of his life.

So while as a Construction Worker, I drive to work every day and sit in my office trailer and deal with the jobs - I worry about my husband and my family and what he might do one day to save your family over mine.

And yes, AED should be in every building, every home and should be widely available. Even my jobsite has one.
EastCountyReader
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May 08, 2012
This is a very personal issue for Ms. Aubert which is understandable. It is also a very important issue for the community and the County and deserves open and respectful discussion.

In my earlier post I noted the following:

"Very impressive work by the fire fighters...they are awesome."

I point out the props I offered not to nit-pick with Ms. Aubert's statement that "none of you offered any props..." but to ask for everyone to allow some space before attacking those who offer opinions.

I don't support the tax measure but I do support the fire fighters. That's ok, right?

I believe we need other options presented and we need to look at public safety differently. I believe the Contra Costa County Grand Jury and the Contra Costa County Tax Payers Association made similar observations. Furthermore, I believe this tax measure will move us in the wrong direction.

The fire fighters are awesome. And without minimizing the respect I have for them, I think there are many other awesome people including school teachers, football coaches, engineers, farmers and moms and dads.

If this tax increase were the answer to our fire and public safety problems I would support it, but it is not -in my opinion.
JRevl
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May 09, 2012
East County Reader -

I absolutely agree that open discourse regarding measure S needs to happen on both sides. Also that some kind of change needs to be implemented. I also respectfully agree to disagree with you on your stance on Measure S.

I also would state that you are not personally impacting the lives and/or pensions of the coaches, teacher, engineers and parents. That it does become a personal issue when it impacts the ability of my family to support itself in the future. And it's absolutely rational and acceptable for me to have personal feelings on this issue as it does impact my family.

Just as if an issue impacted closely the financial future of your family.

EastCountyReader
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May 09, 2012
I appreciate Ms. Aubert acknowledging that her feelings on this issue are impacted by how it personally affects her family income and benefits/pension. That is a very rational reaction.

For me, the fact that the tax does not solve the financial problems of the district while it expands the services provided leads me to vote NO.

The firefighters are awesome. They and the public deserve better and I am afraid the best way to achieve that is by forcing a complete re-evaluation of the way these services are deployed.
davepa
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May 08, 2012
As an IAFF Firefghter any member would feel that that is wonderful idea, heck yeah something to benefit our public great idea. AED's are agreat idea and can help us to help our citizens. See that's the diffenece between private and public is we care and want whats best for the people that we serve. We do not place comments on here an pose as a regular citizen all the while an AMR employee worried about their jobs and or fire departments adding medics to their engines.

Sadly a person gave the department props and you use this to jab them which is jabbing her as well. Very,very sad.
b_simp
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May 08, 2012
Mr. Gonzales, no thank you to your paid on call idea. That worked in the 1900s when the area was rural. It doesn't work here today. Your Measure S opposition partners at cocotax.org even posted a document showing that volunteer departments are higher risk. Back when you were a Fire Commissioner workman's comp claims were out of control. That's the downside to lower prepardedness and POCs that you leave out. Service levels were terrible in those days with many calls suffering tardy or no response from the POCs and outside agencies had to come in to save people and property. Thanks, but I would rather learn from past mistakes.

Workmans comp cases are unpredictable and in permanent disability cases taxpayers are on the hook for life. At least defined benefit pensions are less volitale and can be negotiated down over time. AEDs are a good idea. They are not a replacement. Nor is an army of citizen EMTs. Medical emergencies don't always happen in convenient places offering you the chance to be a hero by grabbing an AED.

Do you have any communications to show that the union pushed the paramedics program or is that purely opinion on your part? I've seen you say it several times now and wondered what is your source. Thanks.
MillieP
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May 07, 2012
Mr. Reader,

Did you know that the contract from AMR with the county provides for AED's? Several of them to be spread out in the communities. It also includes training too! Your County Supervisors are aware of this but don't tell anyone because they would have to pay for the unit in order to save lives.

Call your county Supervisor or look at the AMR contract. Just another reason to vote no on S and get the supervisors to cut the cord of special interest union influence on them and do the right thing. We need an overhaul of fire and medical services in this county not more taxes.
EastCountyReader
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May 07, 2012
Very impressive work by the fire fighters.

It is financially irresponsible, however, to design a system with the goal of providing this sort of life support services by teams with big red fire trucks and top notch insurance and pension benefits.

More of us should learn to operate AEDs and provide CPR so that these crucial moments are not lost while waiting for a move-up from fire services. We will NEVER have enough fire services to cover all of these medical emergencies that all too often can be successfully addressed by normal people with less than 12 hours of training.

Either way (firefighter or trained citizen providing CPR) an ambulance provides transport to the hospital.

Not a knock on the fire department. They are awesome. But they can't be everywhere all the time so we need to consider a different way to save lives.

The county has a program to install AEDs (through AMR I believe) and should consider funding for training citizens in their use.

Would the FF Union endorse this concept or oppose it as a dangerous alternative? Mr. Wells, are you able to share you thoughts?

Gary.Steinberger
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May 07, 2012
Brentwood city hall and buildings should be equipped with A.E.D.'s to help in the crucial first few minutes for people with heart attacks. They should also have an EMT trained personnel on site, and also several staffers should be trained in CPR.
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