Secret world of Camp Tracy revealed
by Rick Lemyre
Jan 28, 2010 | 8867 views | 2 2 comments | 39 39 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Maj. Alex Corbin, right, shares a laugh with 94-year-old Al Nipkow during a presentation on the former POW interrogation center Camp Tracy, where Nipkow worked and about which Corbin has written a book.<br><i>Photo by Richard Wisdom</i>
Maj. Alex Corbin, right, shares a laugh with 94-year-old Al Nipkow during a presentation on the former POW interrogation center Camp Tracy, where Nipkow worked and about which Corbin has written a book.
Photo by Richard Wisdom
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Some of a crowd of 350 spills out of the former main building of Camp Tracy, the once-and-future Byron Hot Springs resort.<br><i>Photo by Richard Wisdom</i>
Some of a crowd of 350 spills out of the former main building of Camp Tracy, the once-and-future Byron Hot Springs resort.
Photo by Richard Wisdom
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A photo taken secretly during World War II from a guard tower at Camp Tracy shows two soldiers enjoying some outdoor recreation.<br><i>Photo courtesy of Carol Jensen</i>
A photo taken secretly during World War II from a guard tower at Camp Tracy shows two soldiers enjoying some outdoor recreation.
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About 350 people came together on Sunday for a rare glimpse into the sometimes opulent, sometimes shadowy past of the Byron Hot Springs, also known as the top-secret World War II prisoner interrogation center called Camp Tracy.

The occasion was a visit to the former resort by Army Maj. Alex Corbin, author of the book “The History of Camp Tracy: Japanese WWII POWs and the Future of Interrogation.” The guest of the East Contra Costa Historical Society (ECCHS) and the Tracy Historical Society, Corbin reveals how the former resort, whose natural sulfur springs and mud baths attracted celebrities such as Clark Gable, Charlie Chaplin and Mae West in the 1930s, was put to another use in the 1940s: gently wresting military secrets from Japanese soldiers and sailors in an operation so secret that its existence was virtually unknown until just a couple years ago.

Corbin, a military intelligence officer whose duties have included helping to clean up Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison following the 2004 prisoner abuse scandal, discovered the existence of the Camp Tracy operation while doing research for his master’s thesis. Painstaking research through declassified materials and a nationwide hunt for former soldiers stationed there uncovered the fact that, unlike the harsh coercive tactics used in Iraq, the work at Camp Tracy utilized kindness, friendliness and cultural understanding to glean important information about Japanese morale, ship armaments and military installations.

“Threats and physical coercion were not necessary,” Corbin told the crowd gathered in the rubble-strewn lobby and peering down from the second-floor balcony. “Courtesy and kindness overcame the most reticent prisoner.”

Also on hand was 94-year-old former Lt. Al Nipkow of Walnut Creek, an interrogator at Camp Tracy. “This is very traumatic for me,” he said. “It’s been 70 years since I served here, and to come back to this shell is unbelievable.”

Nipkow said he was never given specific orders to keep the camp’s operation a secret; knowing it was top secret was enough to make those who worked there “clam up.” Some of the eight living Camp Tracy veterans, in fact, were still reluctant at first to talk about their experience, Corbin said.

When they did start talking, they spoke of their admiration for the Nisei, American-born descendents of Japanese immigrants who worked hand-in-hand with their Caucasian counterparts to question the POWs. Corbin said many of the Nisei worked while their families languished in internment camps, yet still did their duty to their country.

The camp’s innovative tactics included the preparation of “home-cooked” meals by Japanese chefs, allowing POWs to use the resorts spas and mud baths, and placing electronic eavesdropping devices throughout the building while housing prisoners two to a room (sometimes with a Nisei pretending to be a prisoner) to encourage conversation, which was then recorded.

Corbin said he is sometimes asked if the Camp Tracy tactics would have worked in Iraq.

“My thoughts are that if you start off at (a severity of) one, you can always ramp up,” he said, noting that his thoughts were his own, not necessarily those of the Army. “But if you start at 10, you can’t expect to start getting nicer and expect to get information. I think (the Camp Tracy methodology) would really help a lot in our current endeavors.”

The event’s hostess was historian Carol Jensen, an expert on Byron Hot Springs, who conducted tours of the building and grounds. The ECCHS garnered nearly 50 family memberships, something Jensen said showed the keen interest that abounds in far East County history. The Hot Springs, which are fenced off most of the time, will “most definitely” be the scene of another such event in the future.

As for that future, the current owner of the Hot Springs, Dave Fowler, was on hand at a meet-and-greet event at Byron’s Wild Idol following the event. He’s developed plans to rebuild the original hotel and return the site to its previous splendor. The project, however, is currently stalled at the county level, seeking permits.
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packer123
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February 21, 2011
My husband, John D. Peters, was stationed at Camp Tracy during the early 1940's. He had been drafted with a hearing deficiency and when it was discovered at Desert Hot Springs, Gen Patton's desert training area, he was taken out of infantry training and sent to Letterman General Hospital as an Orderly and then on to Camp Tracy as a grounds keeper. He always talked about how well the prisoners were treated and how well they ate. In 1978, while working at Lake Tahoe, we drove to Napa Valley and on the way he wanted to see if he could find the camp. We did find the entrance but the gate was locked and then learned that the area was privately owned. John passed away in 1981 but I have never forgotten about him recounting to me those days spent at Camp Tracy.

Would like to pass this information on to my grandson.
Pam Dooley
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January 30, 2010
Hi, My name is Pam Dooley. We've lived in Discovery Bay for 28 years now. When we first moved to the area, our folks wanted to know why we wanted to move here. We are natives of San Jose. My father was born in 1910 and worked at The Byron Hot Springs in 1928. He was 18 yrs. old at the time and needed work. He said he helped the old Dutch cook in the kitchen, peeling vegetables, and he also set the tables. People came from all over to rest and relax at this famous hotel. He told us one Jewish lady used the springs and then sued the Hot Springs, because she got diarrhea so bad. I have a picture of my father there in the garage and workers huts behind them working on an old model T or A? He has the carburetor in his hand as well as a hammer. The area also has quite a colorful past - it seems the mayors of Stockton & Tracy owned the local brothels which, of course, the young men working at the Hot Springs frequented. My dad told me on one trip home from Stockton on the levy road, his friend had to get out and walk in front of the car, because it was so foggy my dad couldn't see the road. My dad also hung out the mail at the train tracks on a hook for the train to pick up and deliver. Actaully, my father ended up going to work for the Souther Pacific Railroad as an engineer after he met my mother and got married during the Great Depression. I hope you've enjoyed this story which connects to the Hot Springs. I also hope that Mr. Dave Fowler actually fulfills his dream to reconstruct this once quite famous resort. Please notify me of the next visit - I really want to view this place. We tried to take my dad once, but the gate was locked. He actually had tears in his eyes, and his comment was, "Oh, for heaven's sake, it's still there." Thank you, Pam Dooley
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